SoloEpisode 205 · January 11, 2026

Why Imaging Misses Chronic Pain: Structural vs Physiologic Thinking (Part 2)

ACT & Behavior Change

Part 2 goes from definitions to implications. Bottom-up pain does not mean “it’s in the tissues.” This episode is a recording of a live interview with pain researcher and clinician Asaf Weissman. If you haven’t watched Part 1, start there—we laid the foundation: why pain semantics matter, how mixed messages harm patients, and why “nothing is wrong with your body” is an overreach. In Part 2, we dig into: What “always bottom up” actually means (and what it doesn’t)Structural paradigm vs pathoph...

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Part 2 goes from definitions to implications.

Bottom-up pain does not mean “it’s in the tissues.”

This episode is arecording of a live interview with pain researcher and clinician Asaf Weissman. If you haven’t watched Part 1, start there—we laid the foundation: why pain semantics matter, how mixed messages harm patients, and why “nothing is wrong with your body” is an overreach.

In Part 2, we dig into:

  • What “always bottom up” actually means (and what it doesn’t)
  • Structural paradigm vs pathophysiology: why imaging often fails us
  • Why stress, fear, and emotions are usuallymodulators, not causes
  • Threshold models: when trajectories may (and may not) be changeable
  • The case for neuroimmune mechanisms in chronic pain states
  • Where diagnostics and biologics may take chronic pain care next
  • What role physios may play as case managers and guides

This is the second half of a two-part series. Part 1 builds the framework. Part 2 challenges how we interpret evidence, scope, and clinical uncertainty—while staying anchored to what helps the patient in front of you.

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About the Guest

Asaf (Klaf) Weisman

Asaf (Klaf) Weisman

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Asaf (Klaf) Weisman is a physiotherapist with two decades of clinical experience in orthopedic/musculoskeletal rehabilitation. He is a Ph.D. student and the lab manager of the Spinal Research Laboratory at Tel-Aviv University’s “Sackler School of Medicine” in Israel, where his studies revolve around

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