
Ep. 211 · Mar 8, 2026
Dr. Howard Schubiner discusses the link between childhood trauma and pain, as well as the brain's role in creating pain. He highlights the challenges in training healthcare professionals to understand and address mind-body pain. Dr. Schubiner introduces the symptom perception model and explains the process of pain reprocessing therapy. He emphasizes the importance of ruling out structural problems and using the FIT criteria to determine if the pain is functional, inconsistent, and triggered. ...
Dr. Howard Schubiner discusses the link between childhood trauma and pain, as well as the brain's role in creating pain. He highlights the challenges in training healthcare professionals to understand and address mind-body pain. Dr. Schubiner introduces the symptom perception model and explains the process of pain reprocessing therapy. He emphasizes the importance of ruling out structural problems and using the FIT criteria to determine if the pain is functional, inconsistent, and triggered. This conversation explores the revolutionary data on non-structural pain and the importance of transitioning to understanding the emotional piece of chronic pain. It delves into the role of emotional awareness and expression in pain management and the challenges clinicians face in incorporating a mind-body approach. The conversation also highlights the healthcare system challenges and available resources for clinicians and patients. Finally, it discusses the future of mind-body approaches and training opportunities. ***Helpful Links***Dr. Sarno's BooksDr. Schubiner's WebsiteJAMA Psychiatry Study on Pain Reprocessing Therapy
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Internist and Pediatrician
Dr. Howard Schubiner is an internist and pediatrician, who attained the rank of full Professor at Wayne State University School of Medicine in 1999. He is an internist and the director of the Mind Body Medicine Center at Ascension Providence Hospital in Southfield, Michigan. Dr. Schubiner is a Clini
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